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Jun 2, 2010 12:07:01 GMT -7
Post by pa046 on Jun 2, 2010 12:07:01 GMT -7
Change to OBAMA seems to only be a state of mind?
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Jun 2, 2010 17:00:17 GMT -7
Post by kbs on Jun 2, 2010 17:00:17 GMT -7
We are all responsible for changing our own lives and moving outward. Sometimes looking at the big picture only works when you start small.
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Jun 4, 2010 17:06:43 GMT -7
Post by ourthoughts on Jun 4, 2010 17:06:43 GMT -7
What is popular is not always right and vice versa. Maybe if we did more of what is right, things would be better.
There is way too much time spent looking for a quick fix and a fast buck and we miss what is really important. Too bad working together cannot be more popular.
What is the old saying?? "There is no "I" in teamwork? Perhaps this is what happened with BP. They got so big and were making the money that they missed the details and the details failed them.
Now we are left to clean up a HUGE mess and it isn't even about the dollars so much as it is the loss of life and those suffering now - human and otherwise that this spill is effecting. We hope there is a resolution to this soon before more loss occurs.
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Jun 9, 2010 16:57:53 GMT -7
Post by kbs on Jun 9, 2010 16:57:53 GMT -7
The gulf oil spill is a diaster and the impact it is having and will continue to have is going to be devasting.
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Jun 9, 2010 16:59:11 GMT -7
Post by kbs on Jun 9, 2010 16:59:11 GMT -7
P.S.
Just goes to show us that we are way too confident as a society and when diaster strikes we are left scrambling.
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Jun 10, 2010 14:45:38 GMT -7
Post by texas2step on Jun 10, 2010 14:45:38 GMT -7
Doing what is popular is the only way to show that you care about people.
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Jun 10, 2010 18:26:58 GMT -7
Post by kbs on Jun 10, 2010 18:26:58 GMT -7
Not nesssarily. Somewhere something thinks the lesser known and liked idea is better, it just takes more open minded people to realize this.
Just because it is popular doesn't make it right and the quick fix isn't always the answer.
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Jun 10, 2010 19:11:16 GMT -7
Post by ironhorse on Jun 10, 2010 19:11:16 GMT -7
Again I have to disagree with you T2S. Take for example a mugging that happened not long ago in NYC I believe. A woman was accosted, A man stepped in to help, He was stabbed and collapsed on the sidewalk. Passing people saw that he was wounded and decided that it was appropriate to take pictures and video of the visibly bleeding and wounded man to upload onto the internet ( the popular thing) rather than try to assist the man or even call 911. The man died a short while later.
So, is this an example of showing that people cared about him by doing the popular thing?
I think not.
What you suggest is the precursor to what is collectively known as "Mob Rule". Where a group decides what the "right thing" is based upon thier needs or desires rather than looking at the issue from a moral and ethical viewpoint.
For example: If a group of ten people decide that they are going to come and take the food that I've grown for my family of four because they didn't grow enough food for themselves, does that make it right? Am I just supposed to let my family starve because they want what I have? Regardless of the fact that they agreed that it was in the best interest of thier group, my family will still starve and die if I allow that to happen. Regardless of how you dress it up it's still the sanctioned murder of my family. Even though they all agreed upon it.
The majority of people decided the popular thing. To take what I had worked for resulting in the death of my family of four.
In what way does this support your theory that "Doing what is popular is the only way to show that you care about people"?
The ten obviously didn't care about my family when they decided to steal my food.
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Jun 11, 2010 12:24:55 GMT -7
Post by texas2step on Jun 11, 2010 12:24:55 GMT -7
You all just wanna bash Obama, he has the best plan for the further of America. I am 25 years old and tomorrow is my future. I feel Obama cares enough to make sure things will be ok.
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Jun 11, 2010 12:46:08 GMT -7
Post by ironhorse on Jun 11, 2010 12:46:08 GMT -7
First of all, I'm not "bashing" anyone. And while I'm sure that he does care, it's going to take some sort of action to actually effect a change. Not just feelings and caring. As far as having the "best plan", Eh.... I'm not sure he has that either. I'm not saying that I know what to do, but action is necessary to create change. Unfortunately, one of the biggest problems that the President is up against is the amount of bureaucracy and red tape that clutters the executive branch of our government. ANYONE would have difficulty dealing with that and I give him kudos for making an effort. I just would like to see more effective leadership out of him.
I'm 35 years old and tomorrow is my future as well. Age doesn't change the fact that we continually face challenges every day. What will make a difference is HOW we face and address those challenges. What are YOU doing as an individual to make things better? Are you active in your community? Do you give your neighbor a hand when needed? Even if no one asks you to? These are the things that are going to bring immediate change. Helping one another without any expectation of reward, recognition, or compensation. You'll feel better about yourself and have increased motivation as well.
Goodwill is like a virus that spreads and is difficult to stop. And not a bad one if you ask me.
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Jun 11, 2010 18:03:56 GMT -7
Post by kbs on Jun 11, 2010 18:03:56 GMT -7
I agree with you, Ironhorse, about helping each other and doing it for the sheer sake of BECAUSE YOU CAN and not for the "what's in it for me" mentality.
If more people did this everyone's situation would improve recession or not.
As for goodwill being a "virus," that would be the best kind you could possibly catch.
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Jun 15, 2010 8:03:28 GMT -7
Post by fhacette on Jun 15, 2010 8:03:28 GMT -7
This needs reposting here from a yahoo discussion board. These kinds of things happen when you have President whose main concern is to remain popular. Was George Bush really an idiot? Read before you make up your mind If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a TelePrompTer installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes? If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky? If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , would you have approved? If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip? If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had stated that there were 57 states in the United States , would you have said that he is clueless. If George W. Bush would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in Texas , would you have thought he was a self important, conceited, egotistical jerk. If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment? If George W. Bush had misspelled the word "advice" would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potatoes as proof of what a dunce he is? If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he's a hypocrite? If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11? If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence? If George W. Bush had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America , would you have approved. If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved? If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved? Error! Filename not specified. So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 15 months -- so you'll have two years and nine months to come up with an answer.
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Jun 16, 2010 7:13:03 GMT -7
Post by ironhorse on Jun 16, 2010 7:13:03 GMT -7
Did you catch the president's speech about the spill?
Here's the speech deciphered......
WASHINGTON – In assuring Americans that BP won't control the compensation fund for
Gulf oil spill recovery, President Barack Obama failed to mention that the government won't control it, either.
That means it's anyone's
guess whether the government can, in fact, make BP pay all costs related to the spill.
Obama aimed high in his prime-time Oval Office address Tuesday night — perhaps higher than the facts support and history teaches — as he vowed to restore livelihoods and nature from the still-unfolding calamity in the Gulf of Mexico.
A look at some of his statements and how they compare with those facts:
OBAMA: "We will make BP pay for the damage their company has caused and we will do whatever's necessary to help
the Gulf Coast and its people recover from this tragedy. ... Tomorrow, I will meet with the chairman of BP and inform him that he is to set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners who have been harmed as a result of his company's recklessness. And this fund will not be controlled by BP. In order to ensure that all legitimate claims are paid out in a fair and timely manner, the account must and will be administered by an independent, third party."
THE FACTS: An independent arbiter is no more bound to the government's wishes than an oil company's. In that sense, there is no certainty BP will be forced to make the Gulf economy whole again or that taxpayers are off the hook for the myriad costs associated with the spill or cleanup. The government can certainly press for that, using legislative and legal tools. But there are no guarantees and the past is not reassuring.
It took 20 years to sort through liability after the
Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska, and in the end, punitive damages were slashed by the courts to about $500 million from $2.5 billion. Many people who had lost their livelihoods in the spill died without ever seeing a check.
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OBAMA: "In the coming days and weeks, these efforts should capture up to 90 percent of the oil leaking out of the well."
THE FACTS: BP and the administration contend that if all goes as planned, they should be able to contain nearly 90 percent of the worst-case oil flow. But that's a big "if." So far, little has gone as planned in the various remedies attempted to shut off or contain the flow. Possibly as much as 60,000 barrels a day is escaping. BP would need to nearly triple its recovery rate to reach the target.
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OBAMA: Temporary measures will capture leaking oil "until the company finishes drilling a relief well later in the summer that is expected to stop the leak completely."
THE FACTS: That's the hope, but experts say the relief well runs the same risks that caused the original well to blow out. It potentially could create a worse spill if
engineers were to accidentally damage the existing well or tear a hole in the undersea oil reservoir.
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OBAMA: "From the very beginning of this crisis, the federal government has been in charge of the largest environmental cleanup effort in our nation's history."
THE FACTS: Early on, the government established a
command center and put Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen in charge of coordinating the overall spill response. But officials also repeatedly have emphasized that BP was "responsible" and they have relied heavily on BP in making decisions from hiring cleanup workers to what oil dispersing chemicals to use. Local officials in the Gulf region have complained that often they don't know who's in charge — the government or BP.
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OBAMA: "We have approved the construction of new barrier islands in
Louisiana to try and stop the oil before it reaches the shore."
THE FACTS: Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and local officials pleaded for weeks with the
Army Corps of Engineers and the spill response command for permission to build about 40 miles of sand berms along the barrier islands.
State officials applied for an emergency permit to build the berms May 11, but as days went by Jindal became increasingly angry at federal inaction. The White House finally agreed to a portion of the berm plan on June 2. BP then agreed to pay for the project.
The corps was worried that in some cases such a move would alter tides and drive oil into new areas and produce more harm than good.
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OBAMA: "Already, I have issued a six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling. I know this creates difficulty for the people who work on these rigs, but for the sake of their safety and for the sake of the entire region, we need to know the facts before we allow deepwater drilling to continue."
THE FACTS: Obama issued a six-month moratorium on new permits for deepwater drilling but production continues from existing deepwater wells.
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Associated Press writers Matthew Daly, H. Josef Hebert and Jim Drinkard in Washington, Brian Schwaner in New Orleans and Carol Druga in
Atlanta contributed to this report.
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Jun 17, 2010 19:16:04 GMT -7
Post by kbs on Jun 17, 2010 19:16:04 GMT -7
There is a lot of conflict over this topic. Was the timing good or not? It is going to play out in time. I hope it ALL works out for the best for everyone.
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Jun 19, 2010 9:55:35 GMT -7
Post by brsu on Jun 19, 2010 9:55:35 GMT -7
That would be nice, but hey hate to say it. Doubtful. Someone always loses.
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Jul 1, 2010 11:05:03 GMT -7
Post by pa046 on Jul 1, 2010 11:05:03 GMT -7
Obama is now talking about blanket amnesty for Mexican illegals that are presently in the United States.
Great Obama voter base for 2012 and more tingling too.
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Jul 1, 2010 19:52:30 GMT -7
Post by brsu on Jul 1, 2010 19:52:30 GMT -7
I saw on the news today about some of this. Is it about wiping the slate clean and starting over? If so we will continue to get more people here illeaglly. What does that say to everyone? If you wait long enough you can become a citizen by default? I am all for people becoming a US citizen that is what America was founded on but please do it legally and through the proper channels.
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Jul 8, 2010 16:33:50 GMT -7
Post by coykil on Jul 8, 2010 16:33:50 GMT -7
This is still up for debate.
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Jul 14, 2010 13:53:20 GMT -7
Post by pa046 on Jul 14, 2010 13:53:20 GMT -7
Voice your concerns................. take a close look at Obama economics, call email or write your elected official and get rid of the Chicago st lye politics . Obama madness and the tingle down the leg are falling apart in every direction. Look back on this site and you will see that I TOLD YOU SO
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Jul 14, 2010 13:55:51 GMT -7
Post by pa046 on Jul 14, 2010 13:55:51 GMT -7
Obama is not a leader (do I need to post the definition of the word leader again) and his Chicago style thugs need to find a new job.
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Oct 11, 2010 1:16:10 GMT -7
Post by pa046 on Oct 11, 2010 1:16:10 GMT -7
Obama back to the schools, wow, but is doesn't surprise me.
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Oct 28, 2010 20:13:15 GMT -7
Post by ourthoughts on Oct 28, 2010 20:13:15 GMT -7
These political ads are getting way out of control.
Everyone is pointing fingers at each other and everyone is accusing each other of the same things.
Wow, is it really helping??
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Nov 1, 2010 19:41:31 GMT -7
Post by coykil on Nov 1, 2010 19:41:31 GMT -7
Tomorrow is mid term elections and soon all those ads with be gone. They are out of control. I can't even watch TV or listen to the radio without being bombarded by them.
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Nov 5, 2010 12:03:57 GMT -7
Post by route66 on Nov 5, 2010 12:03:57 GMT -7
Pelosi, the witch that keeps on giving! She will "not go quietly into the night". She is seeking the position of House minority leader. I say good riddance to bad rubbish!
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Jun 8, 2011 14:36:34 GMT -7
Post by 1011 on Jun 8, 2011 14:36:34 GMT -7
America, stop sitting back and doing nothing.... voice your opinion.
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Jun 15, 2011 12:44:54 GMT -7
Post by cms on Jun 15, 2011 12:44:54 GMT -7
Your on the right track, but how do you get the America people on the train?
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Jun 20, 2011 13:48:41 GMT -7
Post by 1011 on Jun 20, 2011 13:48:41 GMT -7
I like the CMS blog,
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Jun 20, 2011 14:13:00 GMT -7
Post by ironhorse on Jun 20, 2011 14:13:00 GMT -7
Perha\s the CMS blog needs more exposure.. maybe some advertising, or linking to some other like-minded sites?
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Jun 24, 2011 17:33:11 GMT -7
Post by fhacette on Jun 24, 2011 17:33:11 GMT -7
:DHi ironhorse glad you are back
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Jun 24, 2011 19:23:34 GMT -7
Post by ironhorse on Jun 24, 2011 19:23:34 GMT -7
Thank you. Work has been very busy and have attended to some other life-altering events lately. Changes for the better. True, lasting, positive change. (No, I'm not running for president...)
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