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Post by pa046 on Nov 22, 2009 14:56:38 GMT -7
Now we have a new Small Business Czar... Does this remind anyone of a period in history.
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Post by grassyknollguy on Dec 3, 2009 9:15:09 GMT -7
Look what is wrong with the government helping people out, i for one could use insurance, mine is now go the ER room for care.
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Post by fhacette on Dec 5, 2009 1:07:03 GMT -7
::)Have you been to the DVM, department of motor vehicle, long lines, lots of time waiting and poor service. The Post office, not doing so good. Many offices are being closed, they are losing money. . And you think that a government run health care would be good for America...check out England and Canada they have socialized health care and anyone who gets sick there, if they have money they come to the United States for their health care.
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Post by pa046 on Dec 7, 2009 12:33:41 GMT -7
How about people being responsible for there own actions. Instead of Government handouts get a job and be proud of that job. I know jobs are hard to find right now, and it may not be a job you like, but any job is better than no job.
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Post by route66 on Dec 15, 2009 8:56:21 GMT -7
The number of people filing for unemployment was lower this time but that doesn't include all those who have quit looking. Or those who are now working partime. And still our congress is going to shove health care down our throats.
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Post by fhacette on Dec 22, 2009 23:12:24 GMT -7
here comes obama care for the common people but not for the member of congress...they are "above" everyday Americans and forced it upon us but be forced into obama CARE like they rest of us.
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Post by 04Thirteen on Dec 23, 2009 9:53:58 GMT -7
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT: The President ran on the promise of change, now having been in office for almost a year - people whom have voted for him have found that change was not what they had expected. Several people I associate with alone said they would now have voted for the 'other guy', my answer to them is -- I tried to warn you, I told you so. Understand this however, I fully respect the office of the president and will always, also, I am proud now more than ever to be an American. So, now we are hearing a new promise - one of free health care. LOOK at Canada people. They have free health care, they also have Cancer and come down here to get it cured, because if one treatment doesn't work in their own country it is decided to be a waste of time and money on their health care plan to give them any more. This has a source, look it up. Its also no joke nor paranoia, the elderly, the sick and disabled will take a back seat I believe if that person's FAMILY doesn't have the money to pay for them. For example, your seven year old daughter gets hit by a truck and ends up in a coma. What happens if this free health care doesn't cover an extended hospital stay because its not cost effective? What if you don't have the money yourself to pay for her? What if you have to 'pull the plug' on your own daughter? What if it is your grandmother or grandfather? Did you know that about 90% of the US Population -even those with very low income- does have access to health care right now, there are several programs available, all they have to to is apply for it? -- they just don't-- instead they just stay sick. You really need to think about this. The sad truth is - about 60 percent of the us population does not want this bill to pass, but do you think Washington is listening? No. They are thinking, in my opinion, two words: COST EFFECTIVE. These are congress people, not Joe Smith working down at the five and dime on minimum wage just to scrape enough together to keep his house over his head. Should the 7 year old son or daughter of one of these congress people get hit by that truck and end up in a coma, they will have the option to pay for extended care if so they choose, where we do not. Amazing isn't it? Remember this all is just my opinion but I would think about it if I were you, if one promise of Change was misleading already and not what was expected... don't you think we should seriously look at these other promises as well? History repeats itself, after all... Thats my bit on the health care plan, and like before, I won't fall short of saying, I tried to tell you and I told you so.
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Post by 04Thirteen on Dec 27, 2009 12:08:43 GMT -7
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Post by fhacette on Jan 5, 2010 20:45:38 GMT -7
what happened to Obama's promise that the healthcare bill would not be crafted behind closed doors but on C-span for all to see .
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Post by kbs on Jan 19, 2010 18:12:23 GMT -7
I heard on the news this morning the Democrats are trying to push this through before the end of today's MA senate seat election. They are worried if a Republican wins the seat, they will lose on healthcare reform. What do you think?
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Post by grassyknollguy on Jan 25, 2010 9:50:50 GMT -7
Okay now I have been trying to figure out this site, it looks like most poster's do not like President Obama and now it appears like y'all will get no HEALTH CARE now because of that republican guy who won Senator Kennedy's seat. I hope you don't get sick.
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Post by fhacett on Feb 25, 2010 21:25:34 GMT -7
so today's health care summit contained to show the arrogance of the administration. It still looks like we are going to get OBAMACARE by the DEM'S using the nuclear option.
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Post by fhacette on Mar 17, 2010 14:52:20 GMT -7
Look out here comes Obamacare...kiss your grandparents goodbye. Say hello to ling lines and rationed care for the rest of us!!!
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Post by grassyknollguy on Mar 22, 2010 10:17:49 GMT -7
Horray! I can go to the doctor today for FREE, that is good because i don't have healthcare. cost to much.
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Post by fhacette on Mar 23, 2010 15:34:38 GMT -7
WOW remember nothing in this life is free. Maybe it cost nothing for you to go to the Doctor but it sure as heck going to cost all of us poor working stiffs' to support your give me something for free attitude.
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Post by grassyknollguy on Mar 24, 2010 9:28:50 GMT -7
BLAH BLAH BLAH Quite whinning, we won your lose. Elections have consquences. GO President OBAMA!
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Post by fhacett on Apr 1, 2010 21:42:13 GMT -7
blah blah back to you. Here comes more taxes like VAT they have in Europe just so givemeeee whiners be supported by hard working.
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Post by kbs on Apr 2, 2010 17:55:03 GMT -7
I just want to understand how this all works. Okay?
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Post by grassyknollguy on Apr 5, 2010 10:10:44 GMT -7
Then You should listen to people smarter that you, instead of thinking you know . This bill will help millions of Americans get health care, like me and many others that i know. The only HC I have had since my last job has been the ER room or free clinics.
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Post by Mike on Apr 5, 2010 17:49:02 GMT -7
Healthcare is not a right or a free ride that most people like you expect. Get a Job not a very nice person.
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Post by Mike on Apr 5, 2010 17:52:26 GMT -7
Healthcare is not a right or a free ride that most people like you expect. Get a Job........
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Post by vistor on Apr 8, 2010 14:27:01 GMT -7
go foxnation, go tea party!
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Post by route66 on Apr 11, 2010 22:44:22 GMT -7
I agree, all freeloaders get a job and keep your hands off my paycheck
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Post by kbs on Apr 26, 2010 17:35:02 GMT -7
I heard the healthcare reform is going to take years to put together and by 2016, I think, healthcare is mandatory.
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Post by kbs on May 3, 2010 19:45:57 GMT -7
I think Arizona's immigration law has pushed this heated topic to the back burner.
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Post by fhacette on May 4, 2010 8:17:03 GMT -7
Under Obama care it will be mandatory that you have health insurance and you will be required to show proof that you have it. Yet we have people crying "not fair" over showing ID that you are in the country legally
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Post by route66 on May 16, 2010 13:48:26 GMT -7
The congressional budget office, CBO, now says that Obama Care is going to cost billions more than the original estimate. WELL DUH, everyone knew that except maybe the dems and their leaders. Or maybe they knew and just lied to the American people. It would not be the first time that Pelosi, Reid, and Obama lied.
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Post by texas2step on Jul 17, 2010 18:01:12 GMT -7
Obama is best for the people, the poor need to have nice things also, Obama is going to make sure that happens.
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Post by ironhorse on Jul 17, 2010 20:23:36 GMT -7
Poor people would be better served if they were made to help themselves better thier own situation and therefore get thier own "nice" things. Those things would then have more value to them because they had earned them rather than have those things just given to them.
(For the record, I am one of those "Poor People".)
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Post by 04Thirteen on Jul 18, 2010 9:12:53 GMT -7
Ok, time for my big one to be posted about "The Health Care Plan" Soooo... we have a a new Health Care plan in place. Some people I know call this a gift and a great act -- and claim that for the first time in their lives thier families will have access to health care. Ok, for you guys -- I am glad for you. I hope you continue to see it as a good thing and honestly I hope that it is. However, I have to point a few things out: 1. I have two medical conditions. 2. I've never had my own 'health care' 3. I've always had 'affordable' health care when I need it Yes, this does require going into an urgent care clinic or emergency room. No, it does not/did not cost anything. Know how? Well, about 90 percent of Americans -the poorest people included in that [especially the poor people] already had some sort of affordable/free health care in place. All you had to do to get it was bring ID to to the doctor with you and ASK FOR IT when you are there. It takes 15 minutes to fill out a form, you can do it right there while you are waiting. The state where I live has at least 2 of these programs I know of. So... when I am told that 'this is the first time I've had health care in my life' by other people excited about this bill, I am not following nor in agreeance --- it just tells me you were unwilling to get up and GET it. If it was that important, if you needed it that badly --- why didn't you just ASK for it. You can look this information up as well. I know of ACCS and the Tabacco Tax law that pay for health care. Also, do you know the kind of health care this bill will give you? Did you know that certain things that were covered before won't be covered now? Like I said before -- say your six year old gets hit by a truck and the only way to keep her alive is on life support while she is in a coma? Eventually, life support is no longer effective. What happens when the hospital won't pay for it and while the ability to save that child's life is there, the family has no choice but to 'pull the plug' because they can't afford to pay for it themselves and the gov health plan wont? What happens when you are sitting in ER with broken bones and the guy in front of you is seen first when he only has a bloody nose -- first come, first served right? Not a matter of whom is more critical. What happens to doctors, they go to school for their education of how to do this. When the state starts paying them instead of the people, do you think they are really going to care about how good of a doctor they are and how much they know when they get paid less now and are going to get paid no matter what they do anyway? I know of a family who lost a little girl recently to complications from a heart problem. They kept her on a machine that took care of all of her bodily functions, breathing, heart rate, etc ...while her lungs healed from the surgery she had undergone --the kid was born with half a heart, it was actually written on her medical file that she had a heart that was 'incompatible with life' -- and her heart was fixed and did recover, but sadly passed away from complications of the surgery. The point I am getting to is --- she never even would have had a chance if this had happened with this health care bill in operation --- she would have been considered non-cost effective and refused treatment most likely. Another problem I have is this ...as I've stated in posts above this one... this health-care reform TAKES AWAY OUR FREEDOM AND RIGHT TO CHOOSE. Yes, I wrote that. And yes, it does... Americans will no longer be able to choose to not have health insurance without penalty. Meaning, if you don't have it now you are going to be charged for not having it, and then they are going to use that money to pay for everyone who does have it. How does this show that our president cares about the 'little guy?' When money we are fined is being used to pay for the 'big guy?' I don't know about you -- but don't you think if you can't afford health care, you cant afford to be charged either. I believe this is just one of the freedoms we will lose at the cost of this new administration. Did you know that Mexican citizens and Canadian citizens used to come here for OUR health care? Because that of the countries they were living in, that ours is now modeled after, were inadequate to help them? This is not a gift, not to me and my family. Its a sneaky starting point of taking away basic freedoms. Listen, we've heard and expected one thing from the Obama Administration before and when we get something else people are shouting -- that's "not what I thought it meant" and "this isn't what I expected when I voted for him!" Why not? He's doing exactly what he said he would. Didn't you listen? I did. So why do you think this Health Care Plan will be any different? Think again. God Bless America, may we be able to cover the expenses of our own families and friends soon, because its true, especially now -- if you want it done you have to depend on yourself, and I for one, will not depend on someone who listened to "God d**ned America" Take care. 04Thirteen
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