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Post by ourthoughts on Dec 14, 2008 12:52:55 GMT -7
It seems to us that everyone is "jumping on the band wagon" asking for money. Funny thing, one company gets a bailout, every company wants a bailout. Kind of makes us think of kids, when one get gets a better present, the other kids are jealous and want it, too.
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Post by kbs on Dec 15, 2008 17:34:22 GMT -7
It is like taking a number and standing in line. Who is next? How did it get to this? Really.
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Post by allmebest on Dec 15, 2008 17:55:05 GMT -7
I think a word that might work would be...GREED
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Post by ourthoughts on Dec 15, 2008 18:03:13 GMT -7
You aren't kidding. Everyone wants something for nothing. The auto companies don't even have a concrete plan on how they will improve if they get the money.
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Post by 04Thirteen on Dec 16, 2008 1:28:20 GMT -7
Sk pointed out - If you were to go into thier [auto] dealerships and tell them - hey, I am having a bad time right now and am not going to make it. My credit is a mess - can you help me pay for it? What do think thier reply would be. Unfortunately, for the economy - there isn't much of a choice. Letting them fall doesn't seem to be a viable option.
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Post by pa046 on Dec 16, 2008 14:29:09 GMT -7
Everyone should visit their local FORD,GM, dealership wanting help buying a new car. They are asking taxpayers to help them, why shouldn't we ask them to help us.
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I would like to buy that new $23,000 car but I only have $2,000 right now, can you let me pay the balance when my job is doing better and I get a raise?
See what happens...
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Post by sk2029 on Dec 17, 2008 17:23:12 GMT -7
Or can you bail me out and just give me the rest? Interesting example.
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Post by pa046 on Dec 19, 2008 10:29:17 GMT -7
GM gets Government loan and 2 hours after Bush authorized it, UAW (union) says it is not fair to them.
The Autoworkers need to take a cut in pay also.
A cut from their average $65.00 per hour (to put ties on a new car) is better than the unemployment line that others are having to stand in.
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Post by kbs on Dec 19, 2008 16:01:58 GMT -7
Sacrifice on everyone's part is what it is going to take. Take a day off without pay to help another co-worker keep their job. Do the right thing.
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Post by brsu on Dec 21, 2008 14:48:46 GMT -7
Ya. We all need to work together to get past this.
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Post by kbs on Dec 22, 2008 18:38:33 GMT -7
Exactly.
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Post by fhacette on Dec 28, 2008 18:15:21 GMT -7
:(most people I know would take a pay cut to keep others that they work with, working too. But some people at the top don't care, because their jobs are SAFE!! Isn't that the way it always is.
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Post by pa046 on Dec 30, 2008 13:45:03 GMT -7
Now might be a time for States that are in a financal hardship to impose a 2-cent add on gas tax to help their state funding.
This woud assist the State, County, and Local Goverments in a time when they are cutting funded programs and jobs.
More taxes are no good, but I feel this could be a real help to our economy in a positive way...
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Post by ourthoughts on Jan 1, 2009 12:28:43 GMT -7
All this big companies are in need, we are so busy looking at them that perhaps people forget other areas that are in need to make the everyday things keep working.
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Post by route66 on Jan 5, 2009 8:21:25 GMT -7
Where's my bailout??? I heard that more frompeople everyday. Sure most of us would not turn down money from the government but do we really want to become a country where our government takes care of us, makes our decisions for us and decides who gets cost effective health care.
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Post by kbs on Jan 7, 2009 17:57:59 GMT -7
That is a good point.
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Post by pa046 on Jan 9, 2009 10:33:22 GMT -7
What bothers me most is that most of the news is negative, like Common Man Solutions says on it's home page about the media is true. When the American people hear all negative, there will be no confidence and a lack of confidence will further the economic problem.
The American news media likes to sell their story it makes money for them, I know the economy is bad and America knows the economy is bad but a little positive will go a long way.
A little positive will help turn this economy around, e-mail you major news media and let them know how you feel.
Along with the Housing market being the problem, I agree that the media is part of the problem also.
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Post by coykil on Jan 9, 2009 15:02:21 GMT -7
yes, agreed. a little positive thinking goes a long way. the housing market is a mess, the economy is a mess. instead of bombarding us with constant BAD BAD BAD tell us something good!! it will make us feel a little better!
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Post by kbs on Jan 9, 2009 15:44:36 GMT -7
Not only is the news filled with economy and the mess we are in, it is filled with more negative stories then good. In case you don't believe me, check out a news website. The other day, I counted more murder and diasters then anything.
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Post by ourthoughts on Jan 11, 2009 18:10:48 GMT -7
It is never ending, isn't it? We didn't use to watch the news because it was filled with so negative information. Now, we do, if anything to be informed. Ignorance is NOT bliss.
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Post by kbs on Jan 15, 2009 19:11:55 GMT -7
Yeah, I know. A little knowledge goes a long way, isn't it better to be informed then just going with the flow?
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Post by ourthoughts on Jan 16, 2009 17:29:20 GMT -7
Everyone wants a piece of the "pie." How about if everyone gave just a little, the old saying, "A little goes a long way."
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Post by kbs on Jan 21, 2009 20:09:53 GMT -7
Yes, it does. It will be interesting to see where we will go from here.
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Post by ourthoughts on Jan 25, 2009 16:48:45 GMT -7
We, too, are tired of ALLLLLL the negative. The only way to get better is to start thinking a little better. We saw the "Doom and Gloom" mentioned on the front page of the site, kind of rings true. Is is almost like it is what makes us tick at this point. Makes us think of the song, "Dirty Laundry."
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Post by kbs on Jan 27, 2009 18:11:03 GMT -7
It sure seems that way at times, doesn't it?
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Post by pa046 on Jan 27, 2009 21:31:32 GMT -7
I agree with this site, and looked up the word greed.
Greed noun 1. excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs or deserves 2. reprehensible acquisitiveness; insatiable desire for wealth (personified as one of the deadly sins) [syn: avarice] WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
Based on what has happened in the Business Financial side of life in the past six months, I also think this one word best describes what has been going on.
The financial Markets are guilty of this one word crime, yet our government says they need to support and defend them and not let them fail. I to felt the same way when this whole recession thing started, I was hoping that our Government would step in and right the wrong that was going on in our economy. Boy was I wrong and so where they.
High risk home loans were made by company’s to people with no down payment, no credit check, no proof of employment, and no proof that they where even able to re-pay the loan. The loans where made anyway because they wanted to get their part of the first fast money, show a sale that looked good on paper, but look where this creative lending practice got us today.
I can not totally blame the people; there is nothing wrong with wanting your own home with the hopes of job or income advancement in their future and being able to pay for it. However, I totally blame the lenders who created not only a false hope and a false dream for these people and a nightmare for the economy that we all share today.
Then TARP came along, the Government was going to save our financial markets from failing at just about any cost and with no mention of the homeowner. Billions of dollars where given and are still to this day un-accounted for.
Our economy continued to spiral downward, news of CEO’s with million dollar bonuses, outrageous retirements, and extravagant vacation and relaxation clubs for employees surfaced.
They are still at the door with their hand out wanting more TARP monies to save their company from failing, and to say that the money is necessary to keep our economy from collapsing. B.S.
They have taken the American people for all they have or will have for some. The financial markets need to fail and let life go on, it really can't get much worse than it is could it.
The plan mentioned on this website blog may have been a better way to go for sure.
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Post by kbs on Jan 28, 2009 18:23:16 GMT -7
Interesting points and insight. People want the America dream, they want to own their own home. It is unfortunate that so many have lost them. I saw a story a while back about people who were told that ARM loans were the way to go. Yeah, sure, the lady they interviewed ended up owing more then when she closed on her home and they would not work with her. WHY?
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Post by coykil on Jan 31, 2009 17:31:26 GMT -7
and those people have been duped by something that does NOT work anymore. I do not no anyone who will sign up to lose their house! There needs to be a better way and more safe guards with things that will work WITH the home buyer and not just FOR the bank.
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Post by 04Thirteen on Feb 1, 2009 0:19:46 GMT -7
Ford is trying to 'make it' without government money now...
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Post by ourthoughts on Feb 1, 2009 7:57:15 GMT -7
Oh, ok. Now isn't that interesting.
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